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How do you guys feel about using a time clock to punch in and out?After 8 years at this company, we are getting a time clock. We have a new HR person (long story) and she feels it takes too much time for her to calculate our time cards manually so we are getting this new fangled time clock. There are about 20 people in the office that will start using it, two people in HR that do the calculations. (Hmmm, sounds like 10 cards each to do, not much work I would think.) I think it is over kill but it is me that has to start using it so, I thought I would ask your opinion. The way my company abuses my days off (I am on Salary) I would welcome a timeclock. That way I could punch out (although I may soon 'punch out' the next sucka that calls my celly on my day off!) Just a way to punish people where I work. One minute late, no incentive, a third of your pay for the week GONE, and no motivation to work. I'm surprised more people don't piss on the parts or take a dump in the paint/chemical tanks where I work, let alone go into anarchy... Keep it evil... All that you touch (Pink Floyd: Eclipse) I have always used one so I am used to it. Historical note. The government started the time clock off. It was intended to prevent employers from ripping off workers. Just to let you know that it's supposed to be a protection kind of thing. Maybe you'll feel better about it. [Moderator] I guess when I found out about the clock, I was reminded of how a little old busybody lady would track my comings and goings at work. Long story but, I ended up getting my hours shorted, no proof though. Also, there are a bunch of crazy things going on there now. It just isn't such a great place to work anymore. Yes, I will be protected now too. One question, I usually get to work 15 minutes early, if I punch in and go about my business, will I get overtime? I never put down the extra 15 but now that we punch in as we arrive, I will get 1.25 hrs OT a week at least. Can my boss say that is unauthorized and dock me for it? It depends on what "policy" they adopt. Some companies will tell you that you CAN'T punch in early. At my company they don't care about when you punch in or out. BUT, you can't go over forty hours. If you have 40 hours at 4:10 on friday, you have to punch out and go home. They will either release you early or just say don't punch in early. Don't worry, they will be telling you their "policy" soon. [Moderator] and we had a timeclock. The lady would "adjust" things so they worked out right. Also, the way our schedule was, they would just tally total hours, and not hours per day, so you would never get deserved overtime. (Yeah asswipes at former job, I know you were screwing me over!) I also worked for a larger corporation in retail with time clocks, and if you were too early or too late the clock would beep and you'd need a managerial override. You would get extra money due to you but they'd complain about it constantly. So yeah, chances are they'll complain about it and tell you to punch in later, adjust your hours as "needed" or give you the pay and just flat out be jerks. who the hell do the HR bitches think they are? id continue submitting a time sheet. if theyd have a problem, they could talk to the boss. probably wouldnt get far, because he doesnt want to be bothered by HR either. I wouldn't get any where talking to him about it. The attitude would be "Do you have something to hide? I don't understand the problem." He is a really nice man though, heck, I think I am one of the only ones here that hugged my boss (the owner) this morning when he came in. It is the boss under him that is over me that I can't bear working for. To make a long story short, she is over accounting and does not know how to use excel. I have trained her staff on how to make spreadsheets, workbooks, all that crap. I know my boss takes the credit because when I do things for the owner, like a power point presentation, he gushes and oohs, "oh "wolfietherat" I didn't know you could do that, you are so talented!". Duh, I have been doing these things for 8 years for her and she plays it as her own work, that's why you thought I was a bump on a log all this time. It is starting to make sense to me now. Time clocks are easy to fiddle with, and unless you can either offer proof that your boss fiddled with the damn thing or if a whole bunch of employees get pissed off over tiny checks, the employer's basically off scotch free. That's why I always kept track of my hours when I could. Even so, your employer will likely fight you tooth and nail even over .1 hour (about 6 minutes). I worked for fast food in high school and the owner was your typical tightwad. He was so cheap that he and his doofy wife and kid wanted to charge their customers money for ketchup and salt and the other shitty condiments we handed out. Managers only made between $6.75 - 10 per hour and you only got $10/hour if you kissed the store manager's butt and worked on salary (meaning you spent 60 - 80 hours per week at the store). They would make employees work long ass hours for shit wages and the stores always looked like a mess. They'd fight with you over a nickel an hour wage and they'd blow out help like water. Working there made me never want to commit myself to any employer financially. Thank God I never did...... We are going to be issued cards that we swipe when we come in. Ours is in a really cool place. Right over the chairs in our reception area. So we will have to put our boobs in the visitors faces when we reach over them to swipe our cards. I work with geniuses. Time clocks suck and also suck the motivation to do anything extra out of just about everyone. As specially when you have one (or more) extremely nastily gleeful person checking the cards, who just about cums in their Size Large panties every time they get a whiff of some minor infraction. (Sorry thats crude, but accurately relates my feelings) This is one of the key contributors in my place of employment to the on-going destruction of motivation, drive, and any will to go above and beyond and any kind of positive morale. But will thet recognize this? No. I went from salary, to time clock overnight with no explanation and not even a by your fucking leave. In effect being switched from a salaried position to an hourly one, with no explanation. My fault not to demand an explanation I suppose. But I was still learning. Although I put in the required 40 hours a week (while watching managers do 35!!! who do not punch by the way) and then about an extra 10 or 15 hours a week minimum with no compensation. Never asked for any, never expected any. Did what I had to do to get the job done. We were told one person was abusing the system. This person, by the way, continued to fuck with the time clock system anyways. So we ALL suffered for one dishonest person. That and one hard assed bitch who just gets off on forcing anyone to do pretty much anything, because she is an insecure nasty rhino of a woman and a shit stirring nasty piece of work, period. Thrives on negative, even when it is vented on known good people, who would do anything for the company earlier , now gone resentful, thanks to her bullshit. Cut off the nose to spite the face. As long as someone gets their daily little spurt of power supplement. Long and short of it is that the time clock causes all kinds of woes and attitudes when suddenly introduced into a salary environment. The company was better off , the morale was higher, those that were willing to go the extra mile would do it. Now there is resentment, frustration and undue stress revolving around a time clock that in my opinion is alien and stupid in the industry I work in. And purely political and serves no functional purpose within the company except a negative one. I no longer punch a clock, but I had to fight long and hard to get back to where I started, where I DESERVED to be in the first place, becauase GOD DAMMIT, I am honest. Laughingly, still putting in much more than my mandatory 40 hours. But, I despised the time clock and always will. My fantasy was to take a mallet to it. Smash the living fuck out of it and lay it on the bitch's desk, with it's guts hanging out, along with my time card of course. If I am honest, my gut feeling was not to take the mallet to the time clock....but to someones head (hers). Violent, but true. And of course purely a sentiment and nothing I would ever want to act out. But this goes to show that my anger was uncontrollable about this. Sums up how pretty much anyone forced to punch a clock feels about it. |
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